However even when we, or an angel from heaven, preach some other gospel to you than what we’ve got preached to you, let him be accursed. — Galatians 1:8
Through the years I’ve watched, with indignation and concern, the proliferation of motivational speakers in pulpits. I’ve watched what number of church buildings and preachers are changing the gospel of Jesus Christ with motivational talking. I’ve watched how a few of these preachers have even constructed mega church buildings and empires with this brand of the “gospel.” However even worse, I’ve watched how droves of individuals have been misled into believing that they’re getting fed the Bread of Life; i.e. the unadulterated gospel of Jesus Christ, not realizing that they’re being served motivational speeches on a platter, spiced with scriptures.
However I’m not as involved about these motivational speakers in pulpits, as I’m involved in regards to the non secular nicely being of the hundreds of individuals attending their church buildings; and the a number of million worldwide tv viewers whose lives are being impacted by their teachings.
It’s this concern for the spiritually helpless that has led me to show a few of these preachers for who they are surely; to warn you, the followers and would-be followers of those preachers. I write to alert the Body of Christ about this proliferation within the Church; the hazard of motivational talking packaged because the gospel; and to show you methods to acknowledge a motivational speaker within the pulpit once you come throughout one; which I say, sadly, that there are lots of on the market.
So, let’s begin by figuring out the 2 main motivational speakers in pulpits or what I name, “motivational preachers.” The 2 main motivational preachers of our time are Pastor Joel Osteen of the New Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas and Bishop T.D. Jakes of the Potter’s House, Dallas, Texas!
Shocked? Possibly! Possibly not! Nevertheless, if you’re stunned to study that these two are motivational preachers, maybe it’s as a result of they’re your favourite preachers. Maybe, it’s since you’ve at all times thought them to be “O Nice Ones.” Or possibly it’s due to their success, reputation, ministry dimension, followership, and so forth. and even due to the great they’ve achieved in society. For example, Jakes’ Girl Thou Art Loosed e book or jail outreach ministry. Or Osteen’s e book, Your Greatest Life Now.
As people, we are likely to attribute worldly success, good works, ministry dimension, reputation, followership, and so forth. with godly success. Subsequently, the larger a church, the extra in style or profitable a preacher, the extra success we expect an individual or group has. We even credit these successes to God’s blessings. However worldly success, good works, ministry dimension and even massive followership shouldn’t be essentially the measure of godly success. An individual can have all these, but not be godly. For example, Oprah Winfrey has all these attributes, however but she’s not a preacher; neither can her success be thought of godly; due to what she espouses.
So we can’t go by worldly success, good works, reputation, ministry dimension and even followership. In truth, T.D. Jakes in a CNN/TIME article was described as “Oprah-in-a-pulpit. However for Winfrey’s generic spirituality, Jakes substitutes God.” That’s to say that, if Oprah have been to be a preacher, she’d most likely have one of many largest church buildings on the planet! However fortunately, she has sufficient sense to remain in her lane (not less than for now). So, all these attributes don’t have anything to do with godly success!
However simply earlier than we have a look at why Joel Osteen and T.D. Jakes are motivational preachers, let’s first perceive what motivational talking is, the advantages of motivational talking and the hazard of packaging motivational talking because the gospel.
What’s Motivational Talking?
Merely, motivational talking is an encouraging, uplifting speech; supposed to inspire the listeners to do higher and be higher in particular areas of their lives. In a way, the motivational speaker is an encourager – i.e. the individuals’s cheer chief. She or he motivates individuals into motion. Motivational talking is predicated totally on psychological or human energy and never God’s energy. It’s what an individual can do in his or her personal energy, fairly than what God can do by means of the particular person in His energy.
Advantages of Motivational Talking
Surely, motivational talking has its place in society. Don’t get me mistaken, there are lots of advantages of motivational talking. For example, it uplifts individuals; makes them be ok with themselves. It motivates them to see that they’ll do higher and don’t need to accept much less or dwell beneath their means. It makes individuals try for excellence, forgetting the previous – previous hurts, bitterness, anger, malice, and so forth. It may possibly make individuals attain or try for his or her full potentials. It may possibly even assist some unforgiving individuals to forgive those who have harm them.
So sure! There are numerous advantages of motivational talking. There’s nothing mistaken with motivational talking; IF it’s exterior the pulpit. And so long as the individuals listening to it know for a undeniable fact that that’s what they’re listening to. It’s solely an issue when it’s coming from the pulpit because the gospel, and it’s mistaken for the gospel. We don’t go to church to take heed to motivational talking. Neither will we go to church to be entertained. Quite, we go to church to be taught the uncompromised Phrase of God, rightly divided. If motivational talking is what one needs, one can simply go to a Les Brown or Willie Jolley talking engagement, to be motivated.
Now, does that imply that you simply can’t be motivated by the gospel? Completely, you possibly can. Nevertheless, there’s a distinction in how the gospel conjures up you to change into the Phrase, and the way motivational talking motivates. Motivational talking motivates by means of feel-good messages; which, like euphoria, will not be lasting. However the gospel conjures up by means of doctrine, reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness (2 Tim. 3:16). Not by means of goody-goody, self empowerment messages.
So, if you happen to go away church feeling good about your self after each service, chances are high you’re listening to a motivational preacher. Nobody ought to go away church feeling good after service each time; which is what motivational talking does – makes you be ok with your self. There must be one thing in a message that convicts you; i.e., reveals you the errors of your methods and methods to appropriate them, so that you could be match for the Grasp’s use. By that I don’t imply beat you up or condemn you; however convict you. There’s a distinction.
Hebrews 4:12 says, “For the phrase of God resides and highly effective, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the ideas and intents of the center.” Nicely, if the Phrase of God pierces even to the division of soul and spirit, how can an individual take heed to a sermon and go away feeling giddy, and never be convicted? In any case, a double-edged sword shouldn’t be a toy. Quite it cuts, and cuts deep. However the Phrase of God is even sharper!
The Hazard of Motivational Talking Packaged because the Gospel
Maybe you ask, “If the motivational speaker motivates individuals into motion, and encourages them to be higher, what’s mistaken with that?” Nothing! If it’s achieved exterior the pulpit! Nevertheless, motivational talking disguised because the gospel could be very harmful as a result of it’s typically mistaken for the true gospel. It’s like a chocolate lined poison – tastes good to you, however not good for you. Motivational talking packaged because the gospel blurs the road between the gospel and humanism; which actually is what motivational talking is about. It blurs the road between human means and God’s means.
Except uncovered, motivational talking might be troublesome to discern from the gospel. A lot in order that even a motivational preacher could not know that that’s what she or he is doing. That is the opposite motive why I’m writing this text; to assist different motivational speakers on the market to establish and keep of their lanes. In order that they don’t mistake their motivational talking abilities for a name to evangelise the gospel or pastor a church.
What’s the Gospel?
Maybe by now you’re pondering, “If motivational talking shouldn’t be the gospel, so what’s the Gospel?” Merely, the gospel is the “good news” of Jesus Christ. And the great news of Jesus is redemption or salvation from sin.
The key distinction between motivational talking and the gospel is best defined by this analogy…Motivational talking might be likened to scratching an itch – it relieves the itching however doesn’t treatment the reason for the itch. It doesn’t have the facility to treatment the reason for the itching. It’s the reality of God’s Phrase that cures the reason for the itching. It’s the reality of God’s Phrase that makes individuals free (John 8:32). Not philosophy, psychology or politics. Not sociology, fables or personal opinions.
Subsequently, the first position of a real preacher is to show the reality of God’s Phrase, rightly divided.
A real preacher teaches his or her congregation methods to be true disciples for Jesus Christ; in order that they’ll disciple others. In different phrases, be an extension of the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ. A real preacher doesn’t educate his or her congregation at all times about what it could possibly get from God, however what it could possibly do for God to assist additional His Kingdom; i.e., how they’ll dwell for Him.
In the event you examine the lives of Jesus Christ and the early disciples (our examples), you’ll see that the least of their concern was searching for God for what they might get from Him. Quite, their main concern was denying themselves for the gospel’s sake; to hunt and save the Misplaced. Likewise, the first position of a real preacher is to good his or her congregation to be like-minded. And never this foolishness you see on Christian TV or hear on radio about what you will get from God or what God can do for you – a trait shared by motivational preachers and prosperity preachers.
Why Jakes and Osteen are Motivational Speakers in Pulpits
Surely, each Jakes and Osteen are dynamic and electrifying speakers – Jakes particularly. However don’t be fooled by all that theatrics. Whenever you go to church, you go to church to be taught the Phrase of God; to not be entertained; which sadly is what goes on in lots of of those church buildings. You don’t go to church to be mesmerized both, however to discover ways to relate with God, and methods to search Him for your self. If leisure is what you need, you possibly can go to a live performance or a circus. Neither do you go to church to listen to somebody’s “old wives’ fable” as apostle Paul places it in 1 Timothy 4:7; which is what Joel Osteen does. His sermons are filled with tales after tales.
Most motivational preachers, like Jakes and Osteen, preach to please the listeners. They preach what they know the individuals wish to hear. They preach a generic, non-offensive “gospel”; to borrow T.D. Jakes’ phrases, “a user-friendly” gospel. That’s the reason most of their sermons are both about what God can do for the individuals or what the individuals can get from God: favor, promotion, blessing, victory, and so forth.
Jakes, in a CNN’s Paula Zahn interview, says the explanation for his church development is as a result of he’s extra person pleasant and delicate to individuals. Right here is an excerpt of the interview…
ZAHN: You will have grown fairly a flock. The place do you assume you are connecting the place others aren’t?
JAKES: Nicely, I’ve thought of that fairly a bit, Paula.
I actually do assume that we have touched a felt want in the neighborhood to know that persons are coping with points and crises and to be person pleasant, delicate to them. I’ve tried to seek out biblical solutions to sociological ills and to encourage individuals, despite pains and traumas, to be all that they are often. That was the aim of The Potter’s House Church in Dallas, Texas, as I pastored there for the final eight years and even with MegaFest right here in Atlanta.
ZAHN: I am inquisitive about one thing you simply stated. You stated you need to be user-friendly. What does that imply, much less just like the church buildings possibly many people went to rising up?
JAKES: Sure. Possibly the main focus shouldn’t be on being starchy and prudish and routines and rituals, however simply open and delicate to the necessity for individuals, the flexibility to listen to, not so vital, however open to know and embrace and encourage individuals, motivating them, fairly than pushing and beating on them.
Joel Osteen shares the identical perception in a Larry King Dwell interview; and reiterates in a Washington Put up article…
KING: However you are not hearth and brimstone, proper? You are not pound the decks and hell and damnation?
OSTEEN: No. That is not me. It is by no means been me. I’ve at all times been an encourager at coronary heart. And once I took over from my father he got here from the Southern Baptist background and again 40, 50 years in the past there was much more of that. However, you already know, I simply — I do not consider in that. I do not consider — possibly it was for a time. However I haven’t got it in my coronary heart to sentence individuals. I am there to encourage them. I see myself extra as a coach, as a motivator to assist them expertise the life God has for us.
KING: However do not you assume if individuals do not consider as you consider, they’re by some means condemned?
OSTEEN: You recognize, I believe that occurs in our society. However I attempt not to try this. I inform individuals on a regular basis, preached a pair Sundays about it. I am for everyone. It’s possible you’ll not agree with me, however to me it is not my job to attempt to straighten everyone out. The Gospel (is) known as the great news. My message is a message of hope, that is God’s for you. You possibly can dwell an excellent life it doesn’t matter what’s occurred to you. And so I do not know. I do know there may be condemnation however I do not really feel that is my place.
KING: You’ve got been criticized for that, have not you?
OSTEEN: I’ve. I’ve. As a result of I do not know.
KING: Good news man, proper?
OSTEEN: Yeah. However you already know what? It is simply in me. I search my coronary heart and I believe, God, is that this what I am purported to do? I decided when my father died, you already know what? I will be who I really feel like I am purported to be. And if it does not work, it does not work. Not the top of the world if I am not the pastor…
By “condemnation”, Osteen means preaching in opposition to sin or confronting unrighteousness; which he by no means does. Lois Romano, a Washington Put up Staff Author, in an interview with Osteen, writes…“Osteen, 41, doesn’t sweat or yell, or cry for sinners to repent. He preaches an brisk, New Age gospel of hope and self-help – easy Scripture-based motivational messages, notably devoid of politics and hot-button coverage points…He goals to current himself as impartial as attainable, he says, so as to not offend or generate controversy.”
Some preachers’ argument about not preaching in opposition to sin or unrighteousness is that God is love, so we must always preach extra about God’s love and never about God’s wrath or “hearth and brimstone,” as they name it. As affordable as that will sound, sadly that’s half the gospel, not the complete gospel. True. God is love. However God is fierce too. Jesus by no means minced phrases in regards to the judgment or wrath of God; whereas educating in regards to the love of God. Neither did the early Disciples.
So, this idea of not preaching about God’s wrath or condemnation (unrighteousness) is misguided and deceptive, to say the least! And solely meant to deceive and lull individuals to sleep; or want I say hell! Subsequently, a real preacher despatched from God preaches in regards to the love of God; encourages the congregation to press in the direction of the mark and keep the course; preaches in regards to the wrath of God and in opposition to unrighteousness; and even generates controversy if he has to. That’s the complete, uncompromised gospel.
Jesus by no means did not confront unrighteousness, generate controversy or preach “hearth and brimstone” the place acceptable. Jesus confronted the non secular leaders in His days, the Scribes and Pharisees. All by means of Matthew 23, He denounced their hypocritical methods saying, “Woe (doom) unto you Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!” He known as sin what it’s — sin. He didn’t tip toe by means of the tulips; to borrow the cliché.
Additionally, most motivational preachers hardly use the Bible once they preach; as a result of they educate to individuals’s feelings for crowd response, and never their spirit. T.D. Jakes is the grasp of this. Sure, they might quote just a few scriptures or use some Bible tales right here and there, however they hardly enable God to make use of His Phrase (The Bible) to talk on to His individuals. And once they do, they normally learn from the Old Testomony; typically misusing it, not realizing the way it pertains to us within the dispensation of grace.
I as soon as heard T.D. Jakes say, utilizing the story of Joseph’s dream within the Bible to show a degree, that one mustn’t reveal one’s goals or plans too quickly to individuals. He stated that it was as a result of Joseph revealed his goals too quickly to his brothers that he ended up in an Egyptian jail. Pretty much as good and convincing that will sound, that’s not scriptural. Quite, Joseph ended up in Egypt in order that he may protect the family of Jacob (Israel) from an upcoming famine, which God knew would come.
And Joseph stated to his brothers, “Please come close to to me.” In order that they got here close to. Then he stated: “I’m Joseph your brother, whom you offered into Egypt. However now, don’t subsequently be grieved or offended with yourselves since you offered me right here; for God despatched me earlier than you to protect life… And God despatched me earlier than you to protect posterity for you within the earth, and to save lots of your lives by an ideal deliverance. So now it was not you who despatched me right here, however God… Genesis 45:4-5; 7-8
These preachers hardly ever use the Bible as a result of they know that the Bible will expose their lies. So, what they do is quote just a few scriptures right here and there, typically out of context, and transfer on. And rightfully so, as a result of if you wish to hold an individual ignorant perpetually, hold the Ebook away from the particular person. They’ve been in a position to get away with this for thus lengthy, just because they know that almost all Christians don’t or hardly ever learn the Bible on their very own; and subsequently don’t know what’s in it. Not even these Christians who attend church buildings the place the Bible is learn!
Quite, most Christians’ information of the Bible is predicated on another person’s interpretation of the Bible, or lack thereof. Most Christians dwell and die primarily based on another person’s interpretation; and never what they realized from the Bible themselves by God’s Spirit.
One different factor many motivational preachers have in widespread is of their utilization of the phrase “God” and “Jesus.” Many motivational preachers say “God” greater than say “Jesus.” To them, the name “God” shouldn’t be as “offensive” or “controversial” because the name “Jesus.” Joel Osteen is responsible of this. However then, what do you count on from a man attempting “to not offend or generate controversy?”
For example, Osteen will preach a complete sermon, hardly mentioning the name of Jesus, however God. But on the finish of the published extends to you an invite to simply accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior; which is form of ironic. I imply, it’s like a person telling you all day about his buddy, James, solely to say to you, “Oh by the best way, meet my buddy, Mark,” whom you already know nothing about. Makes you wish to ask, “Who’s Mark?” since he spent all his time telling you about James, not Mark.
I can perceive why among the preachers hardly use the name “Jesus.” It takes somebody with a real relationship with God by means of Jesus Christ to say the name “Jesus.” Moreover, the name “God” can imply something to anyone. However it’s the name “Jesus” that differentiates what God you’re speaking about. Most individuals don’t have an issue with the name “God.” The name they’ve an issue with is the name “Jesus.” That’s “the stone of stumbling and rock of offense” (1 Peter 2:8). That’s the name given below heaven by which we should be saved (Acts 4:12).
Within the Early Church, when the apostles have been preaching the gospel and performing a number of miracles within the name of Jesus, the Jewish council had an issue with them as a result of they have been preaching and performing miracles within the name of Jesus. If that they had been preaching within the name of God, they wouldn’t have had an issue with them.
And once they had introduced them, they set them earlier than the council. And the excessive priest requested them, saying, “Did we not strictly command you to not educate on this name? And look, you could have stuffed Jerusalem along with your doctrine, and intend to convey this Man’s blood on us!” However Peter and the opposite apostles answered and stated: “We must obey God fairly than men. Acts 5:27-29
However Joel Osteen would fairly be politically appropriate than affirm the name of Jesus. In the identical Larry King interview, King requested Osteen if Jesus was the one technique to heaven, and he couldn’t reply within the affirmative! Right here is one other excerpt of the interview…
KING: Is it arduous to steer a Christian life?
OSTEEN: I do not assume it is that onerous. To me it is enjoyable. We’ve got pleasure and happiness. Our family — I do not really feel like that in any respect. I am not attempting to observe a algorithm and stuff. I am simply dwelling my life.
KING: However you could have guidelines, do not you?
OSTEEN: We do have guidelines. However the principle rule to me is to honor God along with your life. To dwell a lifetime of integrity. Not be egocentric. You recognize, assist others. However that is actually the essence of the Christian religion.
KING: That we dwell in deeds?
OSTEEN: I do not know. What do you imply by that?
KING: As a result of we have had ministers on who stated your document do not rely. You both consider in Christ or you do not. In the event you consider in Christ, you’re, you’ll heaven. And if you happen to do not, it doesn’t matter what you’ve got achieved in your life, you ain’t.
OSTEEN: Yeah, I do not know. There’s most likely a steadiness between. I consider you need to know Christ. However I believe that if you already know Christ, if you happen to’re a believer in God, you are going to have some good works. I believe it is a cop-out to say I am a Christian however I do not ever do something…
KING: What if you happen to’re Jewish or Muslim, you do not settle for Christ in any respect?
OSTEEN: You recognize, I am very cautious about saying who would and would not go to heaven. I do not know…
KING: In the event you consider you need to consider in Christ? They’re mistaken, aren’t they?
OSTEEN: Nicely, I do not know if I consider they’re mistaken. I consider here is what the Bible teaches and from the Christian religion that is what I consider. However I simply assume that solely God will choose an individual’s coronary heart. I spent a number of time in India with my father. I do not know all about their faith. However I do know they love God. And I do not know. I’ve seen their sincerity. So I do not know. I do know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I wish to have a relationship with Jesus.
For somebody who’s the pastor of a neighborhood church, it looks like there are a number of issues Osteen doesn’t know. Might this be a case of the blind main the blind? One can solely guess…
Anyway, there are lots of extra the explanation why these two preachers high the checklist of motivational preachers — too many than time or area will enable. However for the sake of time and area, here’s a comparability chart under summarizing among the variations between a motivational preacher and a real preacher. This chart additionally may help you to establish different motivational preachers.
Variations Between a Motivational Preacher and a True Preacher
Motivational Preacher —
Teachings are geared to arouse feelings; i.e. flesh-tingling, flesh-pleasing sermons
True Preacher —
Teachings are geared to the interior man (the spirit); i.e., spirit-pleasing sermons
(1 Corinthians 2:4-5)
Motivational Preacher —
Teachings are about self empowerment by means of self-will
True Preacher —
Teachings are about God empowerment by His Spirit (Zechariah 4:6)
Motivational Preacher —
Teachings make congregants self-centered; i.e., what they’ll get from God: favor, blessing, promotion, pleasure, victory, and so forth.
True Preacher —
Teachings make congregants self-less; i.e. deny self, take up cross and observe Christ, and esteem others above self (Matthew 16:24 and Philippians 2:3)
Motivational Preacher —
Sermons are superficial — lack non secular depths – all humanism
True Preacher —
Sermons have non secular depths – rooted in Christ (1 Corinthians 2:1-2)
Motivational Preacher —
Challenges an individual to do higher and be higher
True Preacher —
Challenges an individual to current his/her body as a dwelling sacrifice to God (Romans 12:1-2)
Motivational Preacher —
Encourages to make self (hearer) really feel good
True Preacher —
Convicts to transform (2 Timothy 3:16)
Motivational Preacher —
Not often makes use of the Bible
True Preacher —
Makes use of the Bible; rightly dividing the Phrase
(2 Timothy 2:15)
Motivational Preacher —
Elevates self (the preacher)
True Preacher —
Elevates Christ (1 Corinthians 2:1-2)
Motivational Preacher —
Stuffed with fables or personal tales – teaches about issues
True Preacher —
Equips the hearer to make use of the knowledge realized to resolve issues; i.e., teaches a couple of resolution (Ephesians 4:11-14)
Motivational Preacher —
Hardly preaches in opposition to sin or unrighteousness
True Preacher —
Preaches in opposition to sin or unrighteousness, amongst different matters (Romans 1)
By no means is that this checklist exhaustive. However it’s simply sufficient to indicate you the foremost variations between a motivational preacher and a real preacher. Motivational talking is motivational talking. The gospel is the gospel. They aren’t the identical. Nothing even shut!
Now, having made that distinction let me reiterate that I’ve nothing in opposition to these preachers or the truth that they’re motivational preachers. I’m solely involved in regards to the hundreds of spiritually hungry individuals listening to them, a few of whom have a honest coronary heart to study God’s Phrase, and assume that they’re listening to God’s Phrase, however don’t have any idea that what they’re listening to is motivational talking packaged because the gospel.
So, my important motive for writing this text is to not persuade you that your pastor or favourite televangelist is a motivational speaker with a Bible. No! My purpose is to warn you or these listening to those preachers who’re unaware that they’re getting doses of motivational speeches, instead of the gospel. I write to let you know to “Beware lest anybody cheat you thru philosophy and empty deceit, in response to the custom of men, in response to the fundamental rules of the world, and never in response to Christ.” Colossians 2:8
Nevertheless, if you’re nonetheless uncertain as as to if Jakes and Osteen are motivational preachers or not, utilizing the chart above, I problem you to take heed to each of them for a month; (most likely received’t take you that lengthy to determine them out), and see if you happen to received’t see by means of their smokescreen. However earlier than watching them, pray. Ask God to clarify to you what He wants you to see regarding these two, past their dynamic model of educating and charisma.
You possibly can go to their web sites for an inventory of their broadcast schedule in your space otherwise you would possibly even be capable to stream some sermon movies online.
Now, let me say that whereas listening to them you’ll hear some issues that make sense or sound good to you. That’s widespread with motivational talking. However past that, you need to be capable to see by means of the charade sinhala motivation.
Under no circumstances are these two the one motivational preachers. So, simply because your pastor or favourite televangelist doesn’t make this checklist doesn’t imply that you could be not be listening to a motivational preacher. Subsequently, do the identical factor you’d do for Jakes and Osteen’s teachings on your pastor or favourite televangelist’s teachings. Take the chart above and evaluate your pastor or favourite televangelist’s teachings with it to see if she or he qualifies as a motivational preacher or not.
My prayer for you is “that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, could give to you the spirit of knowledge and revelation within the information of Him, the eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that you could be know what’s the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance within the saints.” Ephesians 1:17-18
P.S.:
Scripture references taken from the New King James Model Bible!
For a full interview transcript of the King/Osteen interview go to: http://transcripts.cnn.com/transcripts/0506/20/lkl.01.html
For the Washington Put up/Osteen article go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47023-2005Jan29.html
For streaming video of Joel Osteen’s sermons, go to:
[http://www.lakewood.cc/site/PageServer]
For a broadcast schedule of T.D. Jakes’ sermons, go to:
[http://www.thepottershouse.org/index.php?tv=schedule]
You need to pay i.e. be a “covenant companion” to stream Jakes’ sermons online!